stevesmiles222@ Thanks for the issue...

Able to reproduce the issue on reported chrome version 69.0.3497.100 also on latest chrome 71.0.3570.0 using Mac 10.13.6, Ubuntu 14.04 and Windows 10.  

Same behavior is seen on M60(60.0.3112.113) hence considering it as non-regression and marking it as Untriaged.

Thanks..! 

Can you briefly explain why you want to reorder the search engines?

Reordering them would have no effect on the behavior of Chrome.  (Search engines aren't, for example, given priority based on their order in a list.)

The engines are already in a sensible order (alphabetized), and if you don't know the name of what you want you can use the search bar on the page.

thanks!

Perhaps I don't understand why there are two separate sections for the search engine interface.  "Other search engines" are alphabetized by default, but "Default search engines" are not and cannot be reordered or alphabetized.  Not saying this has to be changed, but it seems ambiguous.

At the heart of the matter, and I guess the entire reason I added this ticket, why is there no way to search with any added search engine (in a submenu) from the context menu of page using the selected text?  You can only search with the current default search engine, which is nontrivial to change on the fly.

There are several addons that try to add this functionality to chrome, but there is no api to access the native added search engines, so they have to replicate their own list of search engines separately, causing duplication and separate lists. See https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/selection-context-search/kplgehmegmjifbhioeldcnphfkcfckjj as an example of the lengths to which extension developers go to work around this issue.

If Chromium had this functionality natively, there would be no need for a search engine API, and it would be a great way to reveal the list of added search engines of Chromium instead of being hidden away in the settings.

See Vivaldi's implementation in the context menu "Search with".  Even though Vivaldi tends to overdo things with options, the implementation here is very simple and non-intrusive and one Chromium would benefit to follow.

Additionally in the "Search engines used in the address bar" in chrome://settings/, only the top list of search engines are shown.  Shouldn't it also show the complete list including other search engines?

These are just some basic thoughts on the search engine UX.

> Perhaps I don't understand why there are two separate sections for the search engine interface.  

"Default search engines" are the search engines offered by the browser, even without the user ever having navigated to these.

"Other search engines" are search engines that the user picks up while navigating the web. BTW, keep in mind that this is already a fairly big topic discussed at issue 750534.

> why is there no way to search with any added search engine (in a submenu) from the context menu of page using the selected text?

I don't know the official UX answer for this, but guessing that including all "other search engines" in the context menu would result in a pretty large list (again see issue 750534).

Instead, adding "show this engine in context menu" checkbox within the "edit" dialog (see screenshot proposal) sounds reasonable to me.

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When Firefox switched to webextensions, it inherited the lack of a search engine API from Chromium. If you look at post-webextension Firefox context search extensions, all of them, like on Chromium, keep a separate user-maintained list of search engines.

I really like the Show in context menu option idea!  Thanks for the fast reply!

Thanks for the responses.  Interesting thoughts.  I'll let your comments stand and see if anyone is motivated to tackle this issue.  I'm morphing the bug report title to clarify the core complaint: there's no way to use context menu to search with a non-default search engine.

Simple answer: add "show in context menu" option for each search engine.

Prototype at https://chromium-review.googlesource.com/c/chromium/src/+/1374514.