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Status: WontFix
Owner: ----
Closed: Mar 2018
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EstimatedDays: ----
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OS: Linux , Windows , Mac
Pri: 2
Type: Feature
Team-Security-UX



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Notification request once per domain per session

Reported by serafett...@gmail.com, Feb 20 2018

Issue description

Request to show notification should be allowed only once per session for a domain so user shouldn't have to make his/her notification block list huge for websites for he/she will only visit once.

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4618/39661300554_49eb95cbc3_o.jpg

Thank you

 

Comment 1 by och...@chromium.org, Feb 20 2018

Components: UI>Notifications
Labels: -Type-Bug-Security -Restrict-View-SecurityTeam Type-Feature
Summary: Notification request once per domain per session (was: Security: Notification request once per domain per session)
Labels: Needs-Milestone
Cc: susan.boorgula@chromium.org
Labels: FoundIn-66 M-66 Triaged-ET OS-Linux OS-Mac Pri-2
Status: Untriaged (was: Unconfirmed)
serafettin07@ Thanks for the issue.

From the description in the original comment, this is a Feature Request to show notification request only once per domain per session.

Hence marking this as Untriaged for further updates from Dev.

Thanks..
Labels: OS-Windows

Comment 5 by picksi@chromium.org, Feb 28 2018

Cc: awdf@chromium.org
Status: Available (was: Untriaged)

Comment 6 by awdf@chromium.org, Feb 28 2018

Cc: peter@chromium.org dominickn@chromium.org owe...@chromium.org
Hi serafettin07@ , thanks for raising this issue.

We are aware that permission prompt spam can be an issue for users particularly as more and more sites want to show permissions.

On Android Chrome has started making the permission prompts more modal in order to discourage sites from showing too many of them - see https://cloudfour.com/thinks/time-to-update-your-permissions-ux/

Such an approach might be interesting to try on desktop. But one of the goals of the modal approach is to encourage users to make a decision one way or another rather than dismiss the prompt, which I note is not what you're asking for in this request - you are requesting that we rate-limit the prompts to one per session.

I know in principle we're keen to experiment with different ideas to reduce permission prompt spam, but I'm not sure whether rate-limiting is a path we intend to go down.. +cc peter@ , owencm@ and dominickn@ who may have thoughts about the rate-limiting approach proposed here.
Is there a particular problem with having a large blocklist?

We already have a mild rate-limiting in place: if you dismiss the permission prompt at least 3 times, the site can't request permission for a week.

Otherwise, if you are only visiting sites once, it doesn't really make sense to me to limit the number of times it can prompt to once. Since you've only visited the site once, it gets to prompt once.... but then if you don't go back to it again, it can't prompt you again anyway (nor is it necessary to respond to the prompt).
Yes, I don't want records of websites i visited just because of their annoying requests.

I just tried with a website and doesn't matter how many time you dismiss, it still asks again. This one only asked if i opened an url in a new tab but the website resulted to this issue was asking even if it opened in the same tab.

If the subject was like you described, "if you dismiss the permission prompt at least 3 times, the site can't request permission", then it would be ok enough, but it is not.

Thank you
What version of Chrome are you using? Explicitly dismissing the prompt by clicking the X in the prompt or using Esc 3 times should stop any more prompts from coming up, unless you're running a very, very old version.
No, im using the current version. 

As i just tried, if you dismiss by x button 3 times, yes it works as you described.

But if you just ignore it as many people would do, it just keeps asking.
Learning about dismissing by x button would solve my issue. But other people who would just ignore like me would be pissed of.

Anyway thank you, learning to dismiss by x or escape is good enough for me.
Components: UI>Browser>Permissions>Prompts
Status: WontFix (was: Available)
Thanks for verifying. I'll close this for now

Ignoring the prompt is a bit tricky. On desktop, the prompt is relatively unintrusive, so it's difficult for us to divine an intention from the user:
 - did they ignore it because they didn't see the prompt? We shouldn't penalise the developer for that
 - did they ignore it because it wasn't necessary to getting their task done? THat's possibly something we should penalise the site for; asking for permission out of context
 - did they ignore it because they didn't want to give permission? Possibly not something we want to penalise for, but it's unclear.

Explicit dismissal is a strong signal for the prompt to go away, which is why we have the rate limiting based on that. We've been thinking about a more relaxed rate limit for ignoring prompts based on the above criteria, but haven't come to a strong conclusion yet.

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