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Status: WontFix
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Closed: May 2017
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OS: Mac
Pri: 2
Type: Bug



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Seeking to determine what files/processes identified as "Google Chrome Helper" do.

Reported by mkraf...@gmail.com, Apr 26 2017

Issue description

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10_9_5) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/57.0.2987.133 Safari/537.36

Steps to reproduce the problem:
1. Open Chrome on a Mac running Mac OS.
2. Open Activity Monitor (built-in utility program).
3. Note all the files/processes identified as Google Chrome Helper.
4. See Google Chrome discussions thread (cited below) asking for information about these files/processes.

What is the expected behavior?
Not applicable

Please see the discussion thread at:  
https://groups.google.com/a/googleproductforums.com/d/msgid/chrome/7ea25651-1ad7-4e99-a117-606fbaed4a2e%40googleproductforums.com

What went wrong?
Google Chrome discussions forum monitor (Tina) has told me to report this to you, although I've maintained that the topic is not bug-related.

As noted in the above-referenced message thread (under "expected behavior"), I want to identify what Google Chrome Helpers are and what is affected if they are 'quit' -- to determine whether they can be removed when memory is tight, etc. without undesirable (or worse) consequences.

Thanks.

Did this work before? N/A 

Chrome version: 57.0.2987.133  Channel: n/a
OS Version: OS X 10.9.5
Flash Version: 

My User ID is mkraft77.
 

Comment 1 by rsesek@chromium.org, Apr 26 2017

The best way to do this Window>Task Manager (also available in the Chrome button menu>More Tools>Task Manager).

The PID can be used to link a row in Activity Manager to a row in Chrome's Task Manager.

Comment 2 by mkraf...@gmail.com, Apr 27 2017

Thanks. I usually have Task Manager open simultaneously with Activity
Monitor.

Can you explain what you mean by "link a row in…" [etc.] and the steps to
take to do that?

Also, is Google Chrome Helper just another (generic) way of identifying the
same entries that display in Task Manager -- one that doesn't identify the
actual processes the way Task Manager does (i.e., that just names all of
them "Google Chrome Helper"?

Thanks again.

Comment 3 by rsesek@chromium.org, Apr 27 2017

In Activity Monitor, the values in the "PID" column will match up with the "Process ID" values in Chrome's Task Manager. So if you see an entry in Activity Manager that you want to know more details about, you can look up the corresponding row(s) in Chrome's Task Manager. Note that the entries in the two tables are not 1:1 because Chrome can associate multiple tabs (usually of the same domain) into the same process.

And yes, "Google Chrome Helper" is the generic name we assign to all of the processes Chrome uses besides the main UI/browser process. Because Chrome has more information about the processes, we can display more specific details in the Task Manager than can be visible in the Activity Monitor.

Comment 4 by mkraf...@gmail.com, Apr 28 2017

Thanks. Having given it a go, trying to correlate processes in Activity
Monitor and Task Manager seems a bit of a kludge, because it appears to
involve hunting through a dynamic (i.e., constantly changing) list. (Also,
the PID column in Activity Monitor isn't on the same 'page' as the Memory
display, which is what I usually monitor.)

I guess the thing to do is to just rely on Task Manager to cue what I might
choose to 'quit' if memory (as reported in Activity Monitor) is getting
tight. What Task Manager reports is limited to processes being accessed
through Chrome, but those are the ones that seem to grab the most memory in
my case.

Is there a way to keep Task Manager readily available without having to
keep opening it from menus? It always seems to disappear unless I minimize
it to the Dock before leaving it for anything else.

Comment 5 by rsesek@chromium.org, Apr 28 2017

In Activity Monitor, if you Right-/Ctrl-Click on the table column headers, you can toggle the visible columns. If you enable the "PID" column that should make it easier to find in the Memory tab. In addition, you can sort a column on something more stable (PID is what I usually use) and turn down the View>Update Frequency.

With that in mind, you can also turn in in Chrome's Task Manager the "Private Memory" column, which will give you an indicator of the tabs consuming the most memory.

> Is there a way to keep Task Manager readily available without having to
> keep opening it from menus?

I haven't seen that, and I don't think we explicitly close the Task Manager. If you have a way to reproduce this, I'll look into it.

Comment 6 by mkraf...@gmail.com, May 1 2017

Many thanks for that. I'll be reviewing it but wanted to get back to you
about the Task Manager issue.

The disappearance of the Task Manager screen, which occurs consistently
unless I first minimize it, is as follows:

Click on:  the three vertical dots 'icon' in upper rt. corner of screen
Click on:  More Tools
Click on:  Task Manager

Task Manager screen appears.

If I then switch to any other screen (i.e., tab or window) without first
minimizing the Task Manager display, it disappears. I haven't found any way
to get back to it other than reopening it again -- i.e., repeating the
above sequence.

*> you can also turn in in Chrome's Task Manager the "Private Memory"
column, which will give you an indicator of the tabs consuming the most
memory.*

The Task Manager display that I see shows four columns of data:

Memory (same as "Private Memory" ?)
CPU
Network
Process ID

Are there others?  That is, is any user customization available?

Thanks again.
I cannot reproduce the problem of the task manger disappearing (it stays in the window list, which I can cycle through with Cmd-~).

You can add additional columns (including "Private Memory") by right-clicking the table column header.

Comment 8 by sdy@chromium.org, May 10 2017

Status: WontFix (was: Unconfirmed)
To rephrase what rsesek@ said, after you interact with another window, the Task Manager may just be *behind* that window. I'm going to close this bug, but feel free to keep asking questions.

Comment 9 by mkraf...@gmail.com, May 12 2017

Thanks.  My apologies for not getting back sooner.

I don't find that the Task Manager window remains visibly 'open'; however,
I've realized that in effect it's just behaving like any other window --
i.e., it has to be accessed from the Window dropdown menu.

Or is there a way to actually keep it 'on screen' so that it can be quickly
switched to without having to access a menu -- e.g., to put it in the Dock
so it can be quickly re-opened with a click as Activity Monitor can?

(I assume not since it's part of Chrome and presumably can't be treated as
a standalone app.)
You could assign it an application-specific Keyboard Shortcut in System Preferences>Keyboard>Shortcuts, then click on "App Shortcuts", press "+", and add an entry for "Google Chrome" "Task Manager".

Comment 11 by mkraf...@gmail.com, May 20 2017

Thanks.  Are you sure a keyboard shortcut can be created for Task Manager?

I'd used that facility before (in the way you described) to create keyboard
shortcuts for TextEdit, but I can't seem to get any key assignment I've
created to open up the Task Manager window to work.

Comment 12 by mkraf...@gmail.com, May 20 2017

Disregard previous email. I'd forgotten to select 'Chrome' as the app
before assigning the kb shortcut -- i.e., I'd left the default 'All
Applications' selected.

That said, the shortcut is noticeably slower in bringing up the Task
Manager than the menu options are.

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