Feature Request : Settings should have a more detailed UI for power supplies |
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Issue descriptionThis is a feature request for an improved UI in settings for Power. Expanding the MD settings for power right now, it's very bare... It basically just says "Power Source AC Adapter 100%" when a charger is plugged in. There's some more interesting information we can populate here that the power_manager and the layers below know. Specifically for Type-C Chromebooks, we know which USB-C ports have chargers attached, the maximum power output of each attached charger, and whether the other device is a dual-role device (ie, if it's a power source, we know whether it's a wall wart or another Chromebook). Furthermore, we actually know the *location* of each port too relative to the edge of the chromebook, whether it's in the front or back, etc. I am thinking about a UI that would show the Chromebook and illustrate which port a power adapter is plugged into, how much power it provides. If there is more than one charger attached (which can happen), we can show which one we are charging from, and at what power to sort of demystify this. We can even illustrate charging from another Chromebook (which the user needs to go into the settings anyway to change) visually by showing a different picture for the device on the other side of the cable, etc.
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Apr 4 2017
Some of these features already exist. If you have a dual-role device attached (and no dedicated charger attached), you should be able to select it as a power source in MD Settings. The dropdown menu should include the port name right there. If those aren't working in Dev/Canary, could you file a new bug? And can you see whether chrome://settings-frame has the same information? Adding PM and UX folks for the feature requests.
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Apr 4 2017
Hi Michael : Yes, I agree that the dual-role device dropdown works today. I think we should build upon that and make it a more useful UI though than a simple dropdown box. We have the entire settings page in MD settings when the user clicks on Power, and it's really sparsely populated. There's a bunch of info that would be informative to the user, but also for our debugging as well.
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Apr 4 2017
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Apr 5 2017
Note that issue 633455 will add some more stuff to this page when I finally get around to doing it.
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Apr 5 2017
As with most of Settings, we tried to minimize how much info/options we surface to users with the Power settings when we added USB-C. Without clear use cases and user need, I don't think we'll add settings to show the different power outputs for chargers, diagrams of devices attached, etc. If there's a clear need for any of these, let me know and we can take them to UI Review.
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Apr 5 2017
Max power is something that I'd like to see as a user (to determine how powerful a particular charger is).
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Apr 5 2017
Hi Tom! Thanks for the insight behind the settings. I agree with that sentiment that we want to minimize the clutter in these settings. However, in my USB-C adventures, I have definitely seen bad chargers or bad cables that a more robust UI would help demystify quickly what's plugged in without an analyzer or digging through the powerd logs as I do today. I have seen USB-C chargers that lie about their maximum capability, for example. In one case, I found a charger that claimed on the box that it was a 30W charger, but it digitally advertised to the Chromebook that it was a 45W charger. The Chromebook treats that digital advertisement as a contract, so it starts drawing 45W, and potentially causes overheating and other bad conditions. If a user plugs in a charger and the Chromebook settings page says that it's a different Wattage than what the user is expecting, that's a valuable piece of information for the user to seek help and stop using shady chargers. Furthermore, right now we have a popup that says "low power charger" but we don't explain to the user what that really means. Along with a more robust display of what the chromebook thinks its power sources are, the user could be notified that "oh, i see. a 15W phone charger is under the 20W that this Chromebook needs to charge at 'full' speed. I'll go and find a 24 or 27W charger instead." Let me know if this is a clear enough need.
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Apr 5 2017
All of this data is in the power manager today, but not many outside of our team knows to go to file:///var/log/power_manager/powerd.LATEST to pull up the most recent log to see what kind of charger is attached.
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Apr 7 2017
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Apr 7 2017
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Apr 10 2017
Hi Benson, I think you have a deeper knowledge of USB-C than most (certainly more than me!). I'm still hesitant to add anything to Settings since we don't want people to need to think about the wattage of their power supplies, which is why we show a simple low-power notification when we detect it isn't enough for the device. Apart from low-power issues, are there any cases where we could automatically detect an issue with a USB-C cable/charger? Those would also be good candidates for notifications.
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Apr 10 2017
Hi Tom, In a world where all users can be expected to use the chargers that come with their laptops, I'd agree with you that we don't want people to think about the wattage of their power supplies, but that's actually not the world we live in. USB Type-C and USB Power Delivery allows for completely valid chargers that supply from 0.5W to 100W of power and any value in between. Chromebooks will charge from a large range of that, but with the caveat that chargers < 20W will pop up the notification about low battery. I have had LOTS of conversations with technically savvy people inside and outside of Google asking, "why doesn't my phone charger charge my laptop fast?" and I have to explain to them the thresholds we set and the YMMV caveat when using a charger that is much less powerful than the one that came with the laptop... a UI that explains why would go a long way in answering these questions without sending me an email. :) The USB-IF has standardized on actually putting the wattage of the chargers on the official certified power supply logo. take a look : http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20160816005385/en/USB-IF-Announces-Certified-USB-Charger-Logo-Compliance The USB consortium (of which we are a part) actually is encouraging maximum wattage (instead of voltage and current combinations) as the thing that consumers compare in the stores, so it's not the case that consumers should be protected from the knowledge of what power their power supply is capable of.
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Apr 10 2017
I don't think we need anything complicated here to get the largest benefits -- just append e.g. "(30W)" or "(30 watts)" to the charger's description on the settings page.
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Apr 10 2017
#14: we'd need more words to clarify whether that wattage is the maximum or the current (hah!) |
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Comment 1 by bleung@chromium.org
, Apr 3 2017