Thanks.

This is a known issue, it's been tricky because that's how Android behaves natively, so we can't really fix it entirely in Chrome until Android comes up with a platform-wide solution for this.

would fixing this not also fix the same problem in android native? to be clear, this only concerns placeholder/title as accessible name when no other better labelling (in html, an actual <label> or an aria-label) is present. if there is already a proper label (and not a fallback to placeholder/title) then the placeholder/title should not be announced when there's a value present

But Android doesn't read a <label> either once you enter text in a text field, right?

goodness, i took that as a given and it never occurred to me to actually check. that seems to make chrome/android even more fundamentally broken from an accessibility point of view than i thought. is this also due to android platform convention?

should i file the fact that the accessible name of the form control isn't announced once data is entered by user as a separate issue/request?

attaching a minimal test case for inputs with label and aria-label, and a screenshot comparison of how android/chrome/talkback doesn't announce the accessible name of the input anymore once it has some user-entered value, compared to how android/firefox/talkback behave (which would be the expected behavior, as otherwise a talkback user coming back to a previously filled-in form control would have no way of knowing what that form control actually is/does)

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Here's the missing piece we need, so finally in Android O it will possible to do this right.

https://developer.android.com/reference/android/view/accessibility/AccessibilityNodeInfo.html#getHintText()

However, I changed my mind - let me work with the TalkBack team and see if we can fix it for text fields sooner than O. This has been an issue for a while.

worth renaming the issue to be more general? (i would edit it myself but don't think that's possible in the bug tracker here)

something like "accessible name for inputs not announced when user entered a value" or similar.

further, i assume this would also affect other text-like inputs (like type="url", type="search", type="email", type="number", ...)?

Renamed to be a bit more general.

related to this: note that placeholder/aria-placeholder should now NOT take part in the accessible name calculation, per https://github.com/w3c/html-aam/issues/87

aria-label, aria-labelledby, and title, on the other hand, are of course still part of the calculation algorithm, so this part of the bug report is still valid.

See 713600 for placeholder discussion.

Support is now in TalkBack. Planning to ship this in M62.

WIP, just needs tests rebaselined: 
https://chromium-review.googlesource.com/587868

The following revision refers to this bug:
  https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src.git/+/16789955f80fef324e6f4a35a00c0cd81fa3d6b8

commit 16789955f80fef324e6f4a35a00c0cd81fa3d6b8
Author: Dominic Mazzoni <dmazzoni@chromium.org>
Date: Mon Aug 28 22:32:37 2017

Support AccessibilityNodeInfo.getHintText on Android.

For any HTML element that had both primary and secondary accessible text
(name and description), such as a form control with both a label and
a placeholder, or a link with both link text and a title tooltip,
previously we had to stuff those into the same field. Now Android allows
us to split them into the main text and a separate "hint" field, which we
can now use for all secondary text.

For example, <input aria-label="Phone" placeholder="xxx-xxxx">

Previous: GetText -> "Phone xxx-xxxx"
New: GetText -> "Phone"
     GetHintText -> "xxx-xxxx"

Bug:  707194 
Change-Id: I63e449b418ae4aa8a880feca949c0b7349fff582
Reviewed-on: https://chromium-review.googlesource.com/587868
Commit-Queue: Dominic Mazzoni <dmazzoni@chromium.org>
Reviewed-by: Aaron Leventhal <aleventhal@chromium.org>
Cr-Commit-Position: refs/heads/master@{#497904}
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