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Status: Fixed
Owner:
█ robhogan@chromium.org
Use other robhogan account instead.
Closed: May 2017
Cc:
█ robhogan@chromium.org
bunge...@chromium.org
xing...@intel.com
rtoy@chromium.org
█ francois...@outlook.com
█ bzbar...@mit.edu
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Alt text overflowing img container in standards mode

Reported by edba...@blackberry.com, Sep 7 2016 
Example URL:

Steps to reproduce the problem:
1. Load the attached sample webpage
2. The alt text for the image is overlapping the span content

What is the expected behavior?
That the alt text is readable and not constrained by the dimensions of the image that could not be loaded

What went wrong?
The alt text overflows the image container

Does it occur on multiple sites: N/A

Is it a problem with a plugin? No 

Did this work before? N/A 

Does this work in other browsers? Yes 

Chrome version: 52.0.2743.98  Channel: n/a
OS Version: 6.0.1
Flash Version: Shockwave Flash 22.0 r0

Firefox displays the alt text without overflowing onto the span
index.html
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Comment 1 by dtapu...@chromium.org, Nov 11 2016

Components: Blink>Layout

Comment 2 by skobes@chromium.org, Nov 13 2016

Cc: robhogan@chromium.org
Labels: -OS-Android Hotlist-GoodFirstBug OS-All
Status: Available (was: Unconfirmed)

Comment 3 by xing...@intel.com, Dec 19 2016

Cc: xing...@intel.com
If change to style="width:65px" or some big value, overflow is gone.

Comment 4 by robhogan@chromium.org, Dec 19 2016

Cc: bzbar...@mit.edu francois...@outlook.com
Status: WontFix (was: Available)
This is because we render the alt-text using this markup in shadow dom:

<!DOCTYPE html>
<div style="display: inline-block; width: 25px;">
  <div id="alttext-container" style="overflow: hidden; border-width: 1px; border-style: solid; border-color: silver; display: inline-block; box-sizing: border-box; padding: 1px;"><img id="alttext-image" width="16" height="16"
 align="left" style="margin: 0px; float: left; display: inline;"><div id="alttext" style="overflow: hidden; display: block;">something like alt text</div></div>
</div>
<span>a test span</span>
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 

Edge, Blink and FF each do different things here.

When I look through https://html.spec.whatwg.org/multipage/embedded-content.html#the-img-element I don't see anything to support FF's behaviour, which discards the width specified for the image and displays the alt text accordingly.

Edge doesn't display the alt-text at all (I'm using a virtualbox instance of Win10 to check this, so I'm not sure how out of date my Edge is).

So our behaviour looks correct given the width of the image (which we treat as a container for our alt-text).

cc'ing Francois from Edge and Boris from FF in case they have any observations here.

Comment 5 by bzbar...@mit.edu, Dec 19 2016 

> I don't see anything to support FF's behaviour, which discards the width

There are two relevant part of the HTML spec here.  The first is in https://html.spec.whatwg.org/multipage/embedded-content.html#the-img-element and says:

   If the src attribute is set and the alt attribute is set to a value that isn't empty
...
      Otherwise, the element represents the text given by the alt attribute. User agents may provide the user with a notification that an image is present but has been omitted from the rendering.

and we end up in the "otherwise" clause because the image is not available, because the src is 404.

OK, that tells us what the image represents.   How should that get rendered?  That's defined over in https://html.spec.whatwg.org/multipage/rendering.html#images-3 and says:

  If the element is an img element that represents some text and the user agent does not expect this to change
    The user agent is expected to treat the element as a non-replaced phrasing element whose content is the text, optionally with an icon indicating that an image is missing, so that the user can request the image be displayed or investigate why it is not rendering. In non-graphical contexts, such an icon should be omitted.

In other words, the <img> should be treated like <span>alt text</span>, but with CSS applying based on the actual "img" tag.  This is exactly what Gecko does.  The UA styles that get applied are also defined in the rendering section and don't mention a "display" style for this situation, so absent author CSS rules setting "display" on img, you get the default display: "inline".  This is what Gecko does.

And the reason the HTML spec says what it does is _precisely_ so that alt text will not be unreadable in the common case of a page providing dimensions for the image (to speed up layout, this is the best practice) if the alt text doesn't fit into whatever those dimensions happen to be.

Note that Blink's shadow DOM approach for alt text violates the spec in other ways too.  A simple example in which the text above and below the <hr> should render identically per HTML spec (modulo the broken image icon maybe being present below the <hr>), but very much does not in Blink:

  <!DOCTYPE html>
  <style>
  img, span {
    display: block;
    column-count: 2;
    width: 200px;
    height: 10px;
    padding: 0;
    margin: 0;
    border: none;
  }
  </style>
  <span>This is some long text</span>
  <hr>
  <img alt="This is some long text" src="#"></span>

and note that this one explicitly sets the display property on img, so you can't argue that it's a difference in the UA stylesheet or something.

Comment 6 by robhogan@chromium.org, Dec 19 2016 

Thanks for that Boris. There's no reason we can't start moving closer to the spec and rendering alt-text inside an inline element. I'll probably track progress in a separate bug and cc you - I'm sure I'll need your advice/feedback from an FF point of view as I go along!

Comment 7 by francois...@outlook.com, Dec 19 2016 

I think Firefox behavior is correct per spec. 

Edge never implemented the img-as-non-replaced behavior and generates an image based on the text instead. There is little evidence this is a frequent problem so it is difficult to justify adding the compliant behavior here.

Comment 8 by bzbar...@mit.edu, Dec 19 2016 

It's a problem for users who have images disabled and aren't using a screenreader, basically.  Now you might happen to not care about this demographic.

Comment 9 by lquinn@blackberry.com, Dec 19 2016 

This problem shows up more frequently in mail clients, where image loading is often disabled or restricted to trusted senders.

We filed this bug based on a complaint from a user of BlackBerry Hub on Android. Hub on Android uses the Android System WebView to show email content.

Comment 10 by robhogan@chromium.org, Feb 8 2017

Cc: rtoy@chromium.org
 Issue 651060  has been merged into this issue.

Comment 11 by robhogan@chromium.org, Feb 28 2017

Owner: robhogan@chromium.org
Status: Started (was: WontFix)
Project Member

Comment 12 by bugdroid1@chromium.org, Apr 22 2017 

The following revision refers to this bug:
  https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src.git/+/fe767186a3dc40ea14b5f807ff5438bd78f79c95

commit fe767186a3dc40ea14b5f807ff5438bd78f79c95
Author: robhogan <robhogan@gmail.com>
Date: Sat Apr 22 19:24:41 2017

Use a non-replaced inline container for image alt text

This makes us conform more closely to
https://html.spec.whatwg.org/multipage/embedded-content.html#the-img-element
and the third bullet point in the spec
at https://html.spec.whatwg.org/multipage/rendering.html#images-3.

Our behaviour when it comes to displaying the broken-image icon is still
not the same as Firefox (we display it more often) but I think we're closer
to the spec in that regard. Edge doesn't conform to the spec at all.

TBR=meacer@chromium.org,dmazzoni@chromium.org

BUG= 644802 

Review-Url: https://codereview.chromium.org/2593263003
Cr-Commit-Position: refs/heads/master@{#466546}

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Comment 13 by robhogan@chromium.org, May 20 2017

Status: Fixed (was: Started)

Comment 14 by thestig@chromium.org, May 25 2017

Cc: bunge...@chromium.org
 Issue 464905  has been merged into this issue.
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